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		<title>By: Annie Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie Franklin</dc:creator>
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		<description>The reception for Senator Alexander was intended to welcome him to Cookeville in conjunction with his address at Boys State.  It was not intended to be a forum for extremists to further their cause.  The attendees who repeatedly interrupted the Senator were intentionaly disruptive and rude.  Now that I know they were transplanted yankees, I understand.  They need to learn some manners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reception for Senator Alexander was intended to welcome him to Cookeville in conjunction with his address at Boys State.  It was not intended to be a forum for extremists to further their cause.  The attendees who repeatedly interrupted the Senator were intentionaly disruptive and rude.  Now that I know they were transplanted yankees, I understand.  They need to learn some manners.</p>
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		<title>By: D' Arc</title>
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		<dc:creator>D' Arc</dc:creator>
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		<description>Mr. Pravati - the Saul Alinsky shctick [ridicule, name calling, demonizing,] is getting old and doesn&#039;t work any more on Americans wanting to stop the &quot;usurpation of power&quot; by the elites. The elites of BOTH parties use immigration as a tool to deconstruct the nation-state using trade policies as well as immigration in order to unelect the citizenry-- or rather to disenfranchise them in order to replace them with an easily manipulated helot class or ethnic groups who either come from a society that is based on &quot;clientele&quot; or some subset like highly stratified societies that maybe found in certain Far East countries. Replacing citizenry has been tried before in other nations until an uprising occurs and said elite gets their arse&#039;s whupped or their plantations burned down or lose their money and power in some fashion. Americans are beginning to understand what is going on and they actually get help and warnings from those who have experienced the attempted coup d&#039;etat first hand. As it is a very kindly, wise, highly educated former advisor to Vincente Fox gave a warning to Americans: be advised - this open borders mass migration not ONLY  from MEXICO but much of the Third World -- is not what most think it is - it isn&#039;t just votes and cheap labor. IT amounts to usurpation of power by the elite to replace the native and legal [involved] citizenry to be replaced by a class of people who - to the elite - are part of a clientele identity group. In such a group, one&#039;s status is based on one&#039;s position in said identity group. This attitude has always been typical of the left but now it has also been SOP for the financial and commercial establishment elites around the world. France is wising up - Denmark as well - but it seems America has not suffered enough at the hands of the elite to throw off their feckless reps and the uber class. BUT when the tipping point comes it will make the Palmer Raids of 1920&#039;s look mild in comparison. It might also throw the establishment out of the places they thought they had for life. 

Fredo Arias King wrote in 2006: 

A group of Argentine statesmen in the 19th century sought to populate their country with immigrants from certain parts of Europe, believing that they were more politically mature 
and more propitious for a stable state than the criollo and mestizo populations in their country at the time. One of those statesmen, President Domingo Faustino Sarmiento, had a
slogan: &quot;To govern is to populate,&quot; perhaps because Argentina traditionally has been both under-populated and ungovernable. 

What could be motivating U.S. legislators to do the opposite, that is, to see their constituentsâ€”already politically mature and proven as responsible and civic-mindedâ€”as an obstacle needing replacement? In other words, why would they want to replace a nation that works remarkably well (that Sarmiento was hoping to emulate), with another that has trouble forming stable, normal countries? 

[While] Mexicans are kind and hardworking, with a legendary hospitality, and unlike some European nations, harbor little popular ambitions to impose models or ideologies on others. However,Mexicans are seemingly unable to produce anything but corrupt and tyrannical rulers, oftentimes even accepting them as the norm, unaffected by allegations of graft or abuse.8 Mexico, and Latin American societies in general, seem to suffer from what an observer called &quot;moral relativism,&quot; accepting the &quot;natural progress&quot; of the political class rather than challenging it, and also appearing more susceptible to &quot;miracle solutions&quot; and demagogic political appeals. Mexican intellectuals speak of the corrosive effects of Mexican culture on the institutions needed to make democracy work, and surveys reveal that most of the population accepts and expects corruption from the political class.9 A sociological study conducted throughout the region found that Latin Americans are indeed highly susceptible to clientelismo, or partaking in patron-client relations, and that Mexico was high even by regional standards.10 ...........

When thinking of populating as a way of obtaining power, perhaps these U.S. legislators, rather than from the statesman Sarmiento, took an unconscious cue from another Latin American leader who used migration and ethnic policy for less laudable goals. Mexican President Luis EcheverrÃ­a (1970-76), who began the cycle of political violence and economic crisis from which the country has yet to recover, pursued a policy of moving hundreds of thousands of mpoverished people from the countryâ€™s south to the more prosperous and dynamic northern states, where they remain to this day, mostly in shantytowns. 

His goal was to neutralize those statesâ€™ more active civic culture that threatened his powerâ€”as these states were at the time the main source of opposition to his dictatorial ambitions. These pauperized and dependent migrants and their offspring would provide a ready source of votes for the ruling party along with a mobilizeable mass to counter (politically as well as physically) the more civic-oriented middle classes of those northern states and &quot;crack&quot; their will to challenge his corporatist regime. 

Along with other extra-constitutional tools (he almost succeeded in canceling the constitution to remain indefinitely as president), migration from undeveloped areas was used by EcheverrÃ­a as &quot;politics by other means.&quot; EcheverrÃ­a, in other words, was the ultimate knave. 

Do the U.S. legislators have an overt and well thought-out &quot;plan,&quot; as EcheverrÃ­a did? That is unlikely. 

Unlike EcheverrÃ­a, these 45 U.S. legislators (especially the Republican ones) may simply be following a string of what can be called &quot;rational short-termisms,&quot; that seem beneficial now even though they may unwittingly lead to adverse outcomes for them in the end. Like a diet rich in fats and sugar brings a jolt of energy and pleasure in the short run but causes health problems in the longer term, these congressmen still have incentives to allow and encourage mass immigration because of its low political cost for them and the perceived short-term benefits it brings (for them and the special interests that fund them). 

If these &quot;rational short-termisms&quot; exist within a given individual (where he assumes both the benefits and the costs, such as with an irresponsible diet), they are more prevalent in a country, as those accruing the benefits are not those who pay the costs, and have an incentive to organize themselves to pursue the behavior leading to those outcomes. 

Because of collective-action problems, those benefiting from mass immigration are better 
organized, even if they are in the minority and even if they are vaguely aware that 
&quot;someone else&quot; pays for their largesse. These groups only see the assets, not the liabilities. By nature, legislators should prefer these short-termisms, since the payoffs are immediate and directly attributed to a political figure, whereas the costs can be pushed into the future. 

The payoffs and benefits of more long-term policies are unlikely to be associated with a particular political figure and become, essentially, public goods. Just as there is a large body of literature on &quot;economic failure,&quot; we should begin to explore a related conceptâ€”&quot;political failure,&quot; which could be the Achilles heel of the American and other models of representative democracy. In the end, the result of mass Latin American immigration will not likely present the stark choice of democracy versus non-democracy for the United States, but the quality of democracy may indeed be affected. 
  

AcciÃ³n Directa as a Double-Edged Sword 
What awaits the United States when a critical mass of the American people realizes the immigration issue is little different than what happened in Pennsylvania with the pay-raise issue? What if they decide to organize? 

These legislators are probably correct that, by acquiescing to mass immigration, they will eventually &quot;crack&quot; the immigration-control advocates. They do not need to win or even engage in a debate if they can change the terms of the game so decisively. However, they have only taken into account the legal or civilized resistanceâ€”from those who write in the papers or volunteer peacefully at the border. 

In Latin America, people engage in un-civil direct action because they have come to realize that attempting to convince their elites that their antisocial behavior has adverse consequences for the countryâ€”and expecting that this will dissuade them from engaging in itâ€”is largely a futile exercise. But in the United States as well, once immigration-control advocates realize they cannot reach their goals through legal means, this could breed a form of resistance that has not occurred yet, but cannot be discounted offhand. 

The degree of usurpation and neglect of their fiduciary duty by legislators could provoke immigration-reform advocates to engage increasingly in civil resistance, so that instead of influencing political institutions through civic engagement (as Americans traditionally 
have), they may attempt to politicize individual institutions. Their direct actions are already being 
reported: local officers taking it upon themselves to detain illegal migrants, sit-ins at immigration offices, vandalizing of Mexican restaurants, threatening calls to the Hispanic mayor of Los Angeles, etc. Once these types of mobilizations begin, they will be difficult to 
stop........

During the 18 months when I aided Foxâ€™s foreign relations, in those meetings with what became the new Mexican elite I do not recall so many discussions about &quot;what can we do to make tough decisions to reform Mexico,&quot; but rather more &quot;how can we get more concessions from the United States.&quot; Indeed, Fox largely continued governing the country as his predecessors did, even appointing as head of the federal police agency an EcheverrÃ­a loyalist who was allegedly involved in a deadly extortion attempt against a museum owner in 1972. According to several leading world rankings on corruption, quality of government, development, and competitiveness, Mexico actually worsened during Foxâ€™s presidency.14 Lacking internal or external pressure, the Mexican elites have taken the path of least resistance, which is not the best outcome for the country. 
Paradoxically, as happens in co-dependent relations, a firm but polite defense of American interests by Washington would force the Mexican elites to act and in the end (surely after a brief period of acrimonious recriminations) would be beneficial for Mexico, much as the European Unionâ€™s tough accession laws force elites in lesser-developed aspiring members (Spain in the 1980s and Central European countries in the 1990s) to adopt painful and otherwise politically unfeasible reforms that affect special interests but that benefit average citizens. After all,the gap between elite and popular aspirations in these countries is wider than in the United States, and on a broader range of issues. 

This co-dependence is perhaps nowhere more evident than the personal relations of the political classes of Mexico and the United States. When speaking to these congressmen, we noticed an affinity toward the corrupt party we were attempting to overthrow in Mexico. Several had visited Mexico and apparently enjoyed lavish treatment from their hosts, even mentioning how some of the things they enjoyed in Mexico would not be possible at home. 

Even though the Mexican political class is notoriously corrupt, they can often count on stronger support in Washington than can several more worthy world leaders who are genuinely attempting to reform and improve their countries. The history of the Bush family is symptomatic.....

Samuel Huntington speculated that the American &quot;creed&quot; (values and beliefs) cannot be used to openly oppose mass immigration.16 That may change. So far, the immigration debate has centered on the immigrants themselvesâ€”whether they are worthy or unworthy.

This debate is a red herring, since average Americans are unusually kind and restrained in the face of mass immigration, something that cannot be said about other nations (including Mexico).17

 Recent poll findings from Zogby challenge the popular belief that the average American somehow has negative or overtly prejudicial feelings toward Mexicans in particular.18 However, Huntington did not take into account the possibility that the debate could yet be framed in terms of potential usurpation from the political class using immigration as a tool. 

If an organizeable mass of Americans comes to suspect that mass immigration from Latin America is being used by the political class to undermine their democracy and as a tool to liberate the political elites from the Jeffersonian and Madisonian constraints, then indeed we may witness a reactionâ€”but hopefully not against the immigrants themselves, as they are also objects of elite manipulations in more than one country. 

The Founding Fathers also prescribed a cure for usurpation. Hopefully the American people will not apply it so lterally, for the sake of those legislators.   

End Notes 
  

1 &quot;Politics by Other Means: The â€˜Whyâ€™ of Immigration to the United States,&quot; Center for 
Immigration Studies Backgrounder, December 2003, 
http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1703.html . 

2 &quot;See Elite vs. Public Opinion: An Examination of Divergent Views on Immigration,&quot; by 
Roy Beck and Steven A. Camarota, Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, 
December 2002, http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back1402.html . 

3 Maybe this is where immigration policy differs from trade policy. At least the elites that 
promote free trade with other countries do genuinely believe it benefits the U.S. economy 
and the average person, and the evidence proves them right. 

4 The Federalist Papers, No. 57. 

5 Jefferson wrote &quot;I wish I could give better hopes of our southern brethren. â€¦ what will 
then become of them? Ignorance and bigotry, like other insanities, are incapable of 
self-government. They will fall under military despotism â€¦&quot; Jefferson letter to Marquis 
de 
Lafayette, 4 May 1817, in http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/P/tj3/writings/brf/jefl249.htm . 

6 &quot;Bill Richardsonâ€™s Story,&quot; The Economist, 29 May 2004, p. 34. 

7 S 1992 (vote No. 177, 97th Cong.). 

8 An analyst actually argued that allegations of corruption and abuse have a positive 
impact 
on a politicianâ€™s career throughout Latin America. AndrÃ©s Oppenheimer, &quot;Los mÃ¡s 
denunciados, los mÃ¡s votados,&quot; Reforma, 17 September 2002, p. 33A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Pravati &#8211; the Saul Alinsky shctick [ridicule, name calling, demonizing,] is getting old and doesn&#8217;t work any more on Americans wanting to stop the &#8220;usurpation of power&#8221; by the elites. The elites of BOTH parties use immigration as a tool to deconstruct the nation-state using trade policies as well as immigration in order to unelect the citizenry&#8211; or rather to disenfranchise them in order to replace them with an easily manipulated helot class or ethnic groups who either come from a society that is based on &#8220;clientele&#8221; or some subset like highly stratified societies that maybe found in certain Far East countries. Replacing citizenry has been tried before in other nations until an uprising occurs and said elite gets their arse&#8217;s whupped or their plantations burned down or lose their money and power in some fashion. Americans are beginning to understand what is going on and they actually get help and warnings from those who have experienced the attempted coup d&#8217;etat first hand. As it is a very kindly, wise, highly educated former advisor to Vincente Fox gave a warning to Americans: be advised &#8211; this open borders mass migration not ONLY  from MEXICO but much of the Third World &#8212; is not what most think it is &#8211; it isn&#8217;t just votes and cheap labor. IT amounts to usurpation of power by the elite to replace the native and legal [involved] citizenry to be replaced by a class of people who &#8211; to the elite &#8211; are part of a clientele identity group. In such a group, one&#8217;s status is based on one&#8217;s position in said identity group. This attitude has always been typical of the left but now it has also been SOP for the financial and commercial establishment elites around the world. France is wising up &#8211; Denmark as well &#8211; but it seems America has not suffered enough at the hands of the elite to throw off their feckless reps and the uber class. BUT when the tipping point comes it will make the Palmer Raids of 1920&#8217;s look mild in comparison. It might also throw the establishment out of the places they thought they had for life. </p>
<p>Fredo Arias King wrote in 2006: </p>
<p>A group of Argentine statesmen in the 19th century sought to populate their country with immigrants from certain parts of Europe, believing that they were more politically mature<br />
and more propitious for a stable state than the criollo and mestizo populations in their country at the time. One of those statesmen, President Domingo Faustino Sarmiento, had a<br />
slogan: &#8220;To govern is to populate,&#8221; perhaps because Argentina traditionally has been both under-populated and ungovernable. </p>
<p>What could be motivating U.S. legislators to do the opposite, that is, to see their constituentsâ€”already politically mature and proven as responsible and civic-mindedâ€”as an obstacle needing replacement? In other words, why would they want to replace a nation that works remarkably well (that Sarmiento was hoping to emulate), with another that has trouble forming stable, normal countries? </p>
<p>[While] Mexicans are kind and hardworking, with a legendary hospitality, and unlike some European nations, harbor little popular ambitions to impose models or ideologies on others. However,Mexicans are seemingly unable to produce anything but corrupt and tyrannical rulers, oftentimes even accepting them as the norm, unaffected by allegations of graft or abuse.8 Mexico, and Latin American societies in general, seem to suffer from what an observer called &#8220;moral relativism,&#8221; accepting the &#8220;natural progress&#8221; of the political class rather than challenging it, and also appearing more susceptible to &#8220;miracle solutions&#8221; and demagogic political appeals. Mexican intellectuals speak of the corrosive effects of Mexican culture on the institutions needed to make democracy work, and surveys reveal that most of the population accepts and expects corruption from the political class.9 A sociological study conducted throughout the region found that Latin Americans are indeed highly susceptible to clientelismo, or partaking in patron-client relations, and that Mexico was high even by regional standards.10 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>When thinking of populating as a way of obtaining power, perhaps these U.S. legislators, rather than from the statesman Sarmiento, took an unconscious cue from another Latin American leader who used migration and ethnic policy for less laudable goals. Mexican President Luis EcheverrÃ­a (1970-76), who began the cycle of political violence and economic crisis from which the country has yet to recover, pursued a policy of moving hundreds of thousands of mpoverished people from the countryâ€™s south to the more prosperous and dynamic northern states, where they remain to this day, mostly in shantytowns. </p>
<p>His goal was to neutralize those statesâ€™ more active civic culture that threatened his powerâ€”as these states were at the time the main source of opposition to his dictatorial ambitions. These pauperized and dependent migrants and their offspring would provide a ready source of votes for the ruling party along with a mobilizeable mass to counter (politically as well as physically) the more civic-oriented middle classes of those northern states and &#8220;crack&#8221; their will to challenge his corporatist regime. </p>
<p>Along with other extra-constitutional tools (he almost succeeded in canceling the constitution to remain indefinitely as president), migration from undeveloped areas was used by EcheverrÃ­a as &#8220;politics by other means.&#8221; EcheverrÃ­a, in other words, was the ultimate knave. </p>
<p>Do the U.S. legislators have an overt and well thought-out &#8220;plan,&#8221; as EcheverrÃ­a did? That is unlikely. </p>
<p>Unlike EcheverrÃ­a, these 45 U.S. legislators (especially the Republican ones) may simply be following a string of what can be called &#8220;rational short-termisms,&#8221; that seem beneficial now even though they may unwittingly lead to adverse outcomes for them in the end. Like a diet rich in fats and sugar brings a jolt of energy and pleasure in the short run but causes health problems in the longer term, these congressmen still have incentives to allow and encourage mass immigration because of its low political cost for them and the perceived short-term benefits it brings (for them and the special interests that fund them). </p>
<p>If these &#8220;rational short-termisms&#8221; exist within a given individual (where he assumes both the benefits and the costs, such as with an irresponsible diet), they are more prevalent in a country, as those accruing the benefits are not those who pay the costs, and have an incentive to organize themselves to pursue the behavior leading to those outcomes. </p>
<p>Because of collective-action problems, those benefiting from mass immigration are better<br />
organized, even if they are in the minority and even if they are vaguely aware that<br />
&#8220;someone else&#8221; pays for their largesse. These groups only see the assets, not the liabilities. By nature, legislators should prefer these short-termisms, since the payoffs are immediate and directly attributed to a political figure, whereas the costs can be pushed into the future. </p>
<p>The payoffs and benefits of more long-term policies are unlikely to be associated with a particular political figure and become, essentially, public goods. Just as there is a large body of literature on &#8220;economic failure,&#8221; we should begin to explore a related conceptâ€”&#8221;political failure,&#8221; which could be the Achilles heel of the American and other models of representative democracy. In the end, the result of mass Latin American immigration will not likely present the stark choice of democracy versus non-democracy for the United States, but the quality of democracy may indeed be affected. </p>
<p>AcciÃ³n Directa as a Double-Edged Sword<br />
What awaits the United States when a critical mass of the American people realizes the immigration issue is little different than what happened in Pennsylvania with the pay-raise issue? What if they decide to organize? </p>
<p>These legislators are probably correct that, by acquiescing to mass immigration, they will eventually &#8220;crack&#8221; the immigration-control advocates. They do not need to win or even engage in a debate if they can change the terms of the game so decisively. However, they have only taken into account the legal or civilized resistanceâ€”from those who write in the papers or volunteer peacefully at the border. </p>
<p>In Latin America, people engage in un-civil direct action because they have come to realize that attempting to convince their elites that their antisocial behavior has adverse consequences for the countryâ€”and expecting that this will dissuade them from engaging in itâ€”is largely a futile exercise. But in the United States as well, once immigration-control advocates realize they cannot reach their goals through legal means, this could breed a form of resistance that has not occurred yet, but cannot be discounted offhand. </p>
<p>The degree of usurpation and neglect of their fiduciary duty by legislators could provoke immigration-reform advocates to engage increasingly in civil resistance, so that instead of influencing political institutions through civic engagement (as Americans traditionally<br />
have), they may attempt to politicize individual institutions. Their direct actions are already being<br />
reported: local officers taking it upon themselves to detain illegal migrants, sit-ins at immigration offices, vandalizing of Mexican restaurants, threatening calls to the Hispanic mayor of Los Angeles, etc. Once these types of mobilizations begin, they will be difficult to<br />
stop&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>During the 18 months when I aided Foxâ€™s foreign relations, in those meetings with what became the new Mexican elite I do not recall so many discussions about &#8220;what can we do to make tough decisions to reform Mexico,&#8221; but rather more &#8220;how can we get more concessions from the United States.&#8221; Indeed, Fox largely continued governing the country as his predecessors did, even appointing as head of the federal police agency an EcheverrÃ­a loyalist who was allegedly involved in a deadly extortion attempt against a museum owner in 1972. According to several leading world rankings on corruption, quality of government, development, and competitiveness, Mexico actually worsened during Foxâ€™s presidency.14 Lacking internal or external pressure, the Mexican elites have taken the path of least resistance, which is not the best outcome for the country.<br />
Paradoxically, as happens in co-dependent relations, a firm but polite defense of American interests by Washington would force the Mexican elites to act and in the end (surely after a brief period of acrimonious recriminations) would be beneficial for Mexico, much as the European Unionâ€™s tough accession laws force elites in lesser-developed aspiring members (Spain in the 1980s and Central European countries in the 1990s) to adopt painful and otherwise politically unfeasible reforms that affect special interests but that benefit average citizens. After all,the gap between elite and popular aspirations in these countries is wider than in the United States, and on a broader range of issues. </p>
<p>This co-dependence is perhaps nowhere more evident than the personal relations of the political classes of Mexico and the United States. When speaking to these congressmen, we noticed an affinity toward the corrupt party we were attempting to overthrow in Mexico. Several had visited Mexico and apparently enjoyed lavish treatment from their hosts, even mentioning how some of the things they enjoyed in Mexico would not be possible at home. </p>
<p>Even though the Mexican political class is notoriously corrupt, they can often count on stronger support in Washington than can several more worthy world leaders who are genuinely attempting to reform and improve their countries. The history of the Bush family is symptomatic&#8230;..</p>
<p>Samuel Huntington speculated that the American &#8220;creed&#8221; (values and beliefs) cannot be used to openly oppose mass immigration.16 That may change. So far, the immigration debate has centered on the immigrants themselvesâ€”whether they are worthy or unworthy.</p>
<p>This debate is a red herring, since average Americans are unusually kind and restrained in the face of mass immigration, something that cannot be said about other nations (including Mexico).17</p>
<p> Recent poll findings from Zogby challenge the popular belief that the average American somehow has negative or overtly prejudicial feelings toward Mexicans in particular.18 However, Huntington did not take into account the possibility that the debate could yet be framed in terms of potential usurpation from the political class using immigration as a tool. </p>
<p>If an organizeable mass of Americans comes to suspect that mass immigration from Latin America is being used by the political class to undermine their democracy and as a tool to liberate the political elites from the Jeffersonian and Madisonian constraints, then indeed we may witness a reactionâ€”but hopefully not against the immigrants themselves, as they are also objects of elite manipulations in more than one country. </p>
<p>The Founding Fathers also prescribed a cure for usurpation. Hopefully the American people will not apply it so lterally, for the sake of those legislators.   </p>
<p>End Notes </p>
<p>1 &#8220;Politics by Other Means: The â€˜Whyâ€™ of Immigration to the United States,&#8221; Center for<br />
Immigration Studies Backgrounder, December 2003,<br />
<a href="http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1703.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1703.html</a> . </p>
<p>2 &#8220;See Elite vs. Public Opinion: An Examination of Divergent Views on Immigration,&#8221; by<br />
Roy Beck and Steven A. Camarota, Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder,<br />
December 2002, <a href="http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back1402.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back1402.html</a> . </p>
<p>3 Maybe this is where immigration policy differs from trade policy. At least the elites that<br />
promote free trade with other countries do genuinely believe it benefits the U.S. economy<br />
and the average person, and the evidence proves them right. </p>
<p>4 The Federalist Papers, No. 57. </p>
<p>5 Jefferson wrote &#8220;I wish I could give better hopes of our southern brethren. â€¦ what will<br />
then become of them? Ignorance and bigotry, like other insanities, are incapable of<br />
self-government. They will fall under military despotism â€¦&#8221; Jefferson letter to Marquis<br />
de<br />
Lafayette, 4 May 1817, in <a href="http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/P/tj3/writings/brf/jefl249.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/P/tj3/writings/brf/jefl249.htm</a> . </p>
<p>6 &#8220;Bill Richardsonâ€™s Story,&#8221; The Economist, 29 May 2004, p. 34. </p>
<p>7 S 1992 (vote No. 177, 97th Cong.). </p>
<p>8 An analyst actually argued that allegations of corruption and abuse have a positive<br />
impact<br />
on a politicianâ€™s career throughout Latin America. AndrÃ©s Oppenheimer, &#8220;Los mÃ¡s<br />
denunciados, los mÃ¡s votados,&#8221; Reforma, 17 September 2002, p. 33A.</p>
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		<description>[...] The result has been an intense outpouring of sentiment against the bill. Senators Chambliss and Graham were actually booed at their own state Republican conventions. Protesters gathered at the district offices of Senators Lott and Kyl . Sen. Alexander made the mistake of holding a town meeting &#8212; at which he got an earful about the bill. Republicans in Arizona were tearing up their registration cards and the Republican National Committee saw a 40 percent drop in small-donor contributions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The result has been an intense outpouring of sentiment against the bill. Senators Chambliss and Graham were actually booed at their own state Republican conventions. Protesters gathered at the district offices of Senators Lott and Kyl . Sen. Alexander made the mistake of holding a town meeting &mdash; at which he got an earful about the bill. Republicans in Arizona were tearing up their registration cards and the Republican National Committee saw a 40 percent drop in small-donor contributions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjayrupta Pravati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjayrupta Pravati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I truly got the impression that Lamar thought we were part of the lunatic fringe.&quot;

Hmm, wonder why he might think that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I truly got the impression that Lamar thought we were part of the lunatic fringe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm, wonder why he might think that!</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Holman</title>
		<link>http://bearcreekledger.com/2007/06/02/lamar-gets-a-reality-check/comment-page-1/#comment-20843</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the meeting as well.  Everything was exactly as has been reported here. Darren Kirkus,the moderator, was just trying to keep the meeting orderly, and got a little carried away. Darren is a true Republican and has spent a lot of his time over several years promoting the party. 
I truly got the impression that Lamar thought we were part of the lunatic fringe. I was with the group from White County and we all went away pretty disappointed! But I think the lesson we should take from this is to defeat Lamar in the PRIMARY!  If Republicans stay home from elections, this country is gone!  And we owe more than that to our nation.  &quot;Be not weary in welldoing - we will reap if we faint not!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the meeting as well.  Everything was exactly as has been reported here. Darren Kirkus,the moderator, was just trying to keep the meeting orderly, and got a little carried away. Darren is a true Republican and has spent a lot of his time over several years promoting the party.<br />
I truly got the impression that Lamar thought we were part of the lunatic fringe. I was with the group from White County and we all went away pretty disappointed! But I think the lesson we should take from this is to defeat Lamar in the PRIMARY!  If Republicans stay home from elections, this country is gone!  And we owe more than that to our nation.  &#8220;Be not weary in welldoing &#8211; we will reap if we faint not!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a great write up!  Lamar (!) was at the statesman&#039;s dinner, and did a good job introducing Gov. ROmney.  However, he said something about wanting to adopt the Baker plan for getting out of the war, and my husband almost threw his roll at him.

LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a great write up!  Lamar (!) was at the statesman&#8217;s dinner, and did a good job introducing Gov. ROmney.  However, he said something about wanting to adopt the Baker plan for getting out of the war, and my husband almost threw his roll at him.</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Volunteer Voters &#187; Fitting Lamar In</title>
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		<dc:creator>Volunteer Voters &#187; Fitting Lamar In</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Wow, that Cookeville thing was a disaster. Hey, do we know any influential right-wing bloggers who know the game enough not to outright sandbag us and help us get our message out? Ah yes, Hobbs! Call him up!&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Wow, that Cookeville thing was a disaster. Hey, do we know any influential right-wing bloggers who know the game enough not to outright sandbag us and help us get our message out? Ah yes, Hobbs! Call him up!&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Toni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George - I can tell you I was living in MN in 2002.  But in 2006 I was pro Bryant and attended more than one function along with donating for his primary.  I know my RWWC friends also helped out Bryant both in 2006 and 2002.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George &#8211; I can tell you I was living in MN in 2002.  But in 2006 I was pro Bryant and attended more than one function along with donating for his primary.  I know my RWWC friends also helped out Bryant both in 2006 and 2002.</p>
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		<title>By: George Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 02:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where were all you people when Ed Bryant needed you in 2002?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where were all you people when Ed Bryant needed you in 2002?</p>
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		<title>By: Six Meat Buffet &#187; Lamar Goes Limp Yet Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Six Meat Buffet &#187; Lamar Goes Limp Yet Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Toni, at the Bear Creek Ledger (who I&#8217;ve just added to my Tennesseans blogroll), was at a LAMAR! rally over the weekend in Cookeville, TN and reports that our weak-kneed Senator is ready to get on his knees and start gobbling whatever President Junior spills out in way of his Amnesty bill. Do we get chips and salsa with that betrayal, Junior? Iâ€™m sitting there and my friends are expecting me to be confrontational but to our surprise it wasnâ€™t me but our friend Sherry who interrupted Lamar while he was speaking. I almost cracked out laughing (if you knew Sherry then you would understand). Sherry told Lamar how people had no trust in the politicians since there had been 6 amnesties given since 1986 and nothing had been done to enforce our laws or secure our borders. She told him no one trusted those in Washington to secure our borders. We had lost confidence in them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Toni, at the Bear Creek Ledger (who I&#8217;ve just added to my Tennesseans blogroll), was at a LAMAR! rally over the weekend in Cookeville, TN and reports that our weak-kneed Senator is ready to get on his knees and start gobbling whatever President Junior spills out in way of his Amnesty bill. Do we get chips and salsa with that betrayal, Junior? Iâ€™m sitting there and my friends are expecting me to be confrontational but to our surprise it wasnâ€™t me but our friend Sherry who interrupted Lamar while he was speaking. I almost cracked out laughing (if you knew Sherry then you would understand). Sherry told Lamar how people had no trust in the politicians since there had been 6 amnesties given since 1986 and nothing had been done to enforce our laws or secure our borders. She told him no one trusted those in Washington to secure our borders. We had lost confidence in them. [...]</p>
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