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H1B Visa holders unhappy about illegal aliens

There’s an interesting discussion in the comments at Stein Report over a Washington Post story about a H1B visa holder who has overstayed his visa (which by the way makes him also an illegal) in trying to obtain a Green card and is unhappy with “fence jumpers” (illegal aliens).  There’s so many levels of irony here it’s almost humorous.  Half of the illegal aliens in this country are those who came here on Visas.  There is a problem with H1B Visa holders working for corporations which have contracts with the government violating National Security.  Another issue is reciprocity.  For example, India will not hire Americans for H1B like Visas.  I’m not sure how these aliens with expired H1B Visas are able to get hired by a corporation unless the corporation is knowingly hiring an illegal.  A foreign national has to complete an I9 form along with a copy of their Visa on hire. 

Some people here are confusing the concepts of “dual intent” and “entitlement.”

For their edification, here’s the difference: when someone applies for and receives H1-B visa permission to work in the United States, this happens with the understanding that it’s a temporary status subject to further applications, including the possible node of travel into the green card status. H1-B visa holders, you understand the concepts of nodes, probabilities and binomial trees, yes? In the structure of the H1-B system, the probability of movement from the node of H1-B term expiration/renewal onto the path of green card status is not, and never was, 100%. Yes?

An entitlement, on the other hand, would presume a 100% probability of earning a green card; if such an entitlement existed and were not granted, Americans might understand the kind of “anger” FAIR cites in the title of this thread. The H1-B was never such an entitlement, however.

What H1-B visa holders DO get as “fruit” of their labor includes pay, benefits and experience. If they’ve saved their money, worked hard and learned, they have much to take home with them when their terms expire. But that’s all they get out of the deal; the same is true for all American citizens who hold jobs in this non-socialist business culture.

 

Posted by: FCannon on November 29, 2006 03:05 PM

Roundup of other stories:

Biden, South Carolina and Mexico – Morning Coffee

Riverside’s Law is official today - My Country My View

Illegal Aliens get legal car tags in GA!  – Take Back Georgia

Victories in the fight against illegal immigration - Take Back Georgia

Temporary Guest Workers?…..Sorry no such thing!  – Stiknstein

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7 Responses to “H1B Visa holders unhappy about illegal aliens”

  • H1B Visa holders unhappy about illegal aliens

    Cross Posted by Bear Creek Ledger
    There’s an interesting discussion in the comments at Stein Report over a Washington Post story about a H1B visa holder who has overstayed his visa (which by the way makes him also an illegal) in trying to obtain…

  • Ronnysgirl says:

    “a H1B visa holder who has overstayed his visa (which by the way makes him also an illegal) in trying to obtain a Green card and is unhappy with “fence jumpersâ€? (illegal aliens)”

    Now isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black? The nerve!

  • H1B Visa holders unhappy about illegal aliens

    Cross Posted by Bear Creek Ledger
    There’s an interesting discussion in the comments at Stein Report over a Washington Post story about a H1B visa holder who has overstayed his visa (which by the way makes him also an illegal) in trying to obtain …

  • Law enforcement not high on Colorado AG Priority list

    From the Denver Post 
    Colorado Attorney General John Suthers – citing a lack of funding – has not been enforcing one of the legislature’s centerpiece laws to get tough on illegal immigration.
    The new statute orders the attorney general to pursue…

  • Unfed Neuron says:

    “which have contracts with the government violating National Security.”

    Being an immigrant from India (legal one) I partially disagree with your comment about national security.

    Biggest threats to a nation’s security are none other then its own govt servants/politicians who have and can manipulate records. If you compare frauds/scams done by politicans v/s those done by legal/illegal immigrants, you will come to know what I am talking.

    H1-B visas are issued to professionals, they work here and spend some of it and remit the savings to their home country. This looks a bit one way traffic to US citizens. Now if you see the reverse, many many MNC’s do business in developing world… dont they earn money there..? dont they remit their earnings back to US..? so kid, its globalization, if you can sell Pepsi, coke and get dollars out of India… then be ready to return those dollars as paycheck back to Indians.. what goes.. must come back…!!

  • Bryan says:

    “The H1B Visa Process:

    - To obtain an H1B visa, every applicant must, first, find a job with an H1B visa employer
    company in the USA; commonly known as your ‘H1B sponsor’. – Your H1B employer then applies for / files your H1B visa application. Individuals can NOT sponsor or apply for their own H1B visa – ONLY your new employer (sponsor) can.
    - An H1B visa is typically valid for up to six (6) years and entitles your spouse (husband/wife)
    and children to accompany you and ‘live’ in America.
    - One of the main advantages of the H1B visa (USA work permit) is that it is a ‘dual intent’
    visa which means that you can apply for a Green Card (Legal Permanent Residency). ”

    Source: http://www.h1base.com/#s1

  • gorgon says:

    What if a US citizen (birth) is fired by an H1-B Visa holder for personal reasons. Why does an H1-B visa holder have this power in the states? How can this be legal. Does a US passport and citizenship mean nothing anymore?

    Also to #5 I have worked in various industries and H1-B visa are NO MORE qualified than US citizens. Low-level IT workers from certain parts of asia, are unqualified and dishonest. Anyone that’s called basic IT support for Apple, Dell, Microsoft, etc can confirm this. These companies train these workers to “mimic” American slang and speech. More deceit. The only advantage is lower pay paid-out by employers and the “at-will” status of H1-B visa holders. They have to leave the country once terminated. Problem solved and out of sight.

    I think H1-B is a sham. Do I have to be an illegal alien to get rights in this country? I just don’t get it.

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